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Where you from, Joe?

Just got a little language thing going on here; I'm just pointing out that chain gun includes up to the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger 30mm, firing depleted uranium ammunition, which is capable of penetrating even 64 inches, (6 feet), of Chobham, (frontal tank armor on the M1-A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank)

So there is no armor known to man that will withstand 'chain gun' weapons... even our most heavily armored creation, the main battle tank, is cut to pieces by it, so I'm a little befuddled by the suggestion that a person is wearing armor that will stand up to a chain gun.

America in New York why ask?

just edited above post while you were posting, sorry for the confusion :looks up:

From the Discovery Channel there is where it show it.
Unless there making shit up.
The way you sound you most be in the military or once was. Anyway they showed it on the Discovery Channel. I worries me that the US would allow such a show air in America. And since you sound like a expert military person. That knows about guns, explains about how is impossible. Here is discovery channel showing such a thing. Gets me even more worried, why did they air that?

I actually didn't believe my friends about a flying car until Discovery channel show it.

heh my head hurts even thinking about that channel.

My brother calls that the WE"RE GOING TO DIE CHANNEL. Because when they show about space, there always showing many types of shit of how where going to die.

"The way you sound you most be in the military or once was."

Naw, i get that a lot though. non military, just standard southern man.

"That knows about guns, explains about how is impossible"

Nothing is impossible, only impractical. If 6 feet of the best armor on earth won't withstand it, it means you need new armor. Depleted Uranium is 40 times harder than steel, so flying at 3000 feet per second, it tends to penetrate everything but diamond.

The effect is similar to the advent of firearms in the 15th Century in medieval period. Knights, whom were of a higher class and order than the common peasant, suddenly became prey to the crossbow, which could be fired by the most base of peon's...

It was called the end of an age, the death of chivalry... Suddenly knights and wars were no longer fought in the gentleman's code, with a nod to the value of human life, but with attrition... The notion of honorable combat, where combatants were taken prisoner and ransomed back to their lord was gone, and people were killed outright in battle... That was new, previously experienced warriors had been too valuable to risk in brutal melees.

In the modern age, the advent of weapons has far outstripped the development of armor.

The new order of expendable modern warriors, determined and efficient in their task, with technological support, have replaced the knightly order, which were compensated with land and title...

Rather they have been told it was their duty and honor to serve at the behest of their nation of birth... with the best armor available, that capable of withstanding a 7.62x51mm NATO round... (aka .308 civilian) this ceramic armor insert panel will withstand the largest impact man is capable of resisting, on a human to human basis.

None the less, it remains a ceramic insert on a threat level IV (4) rating armor piece.

I myself carry TL 4 (threat level 4) armor, military issue.The highest you can armor against, on a personal basis, is a 7.62 mm, and that is relative to distance and marksmanship... obviously you can't:

A: wear it over your face and be effective.

and

B: have it resist weapons designed to destroy tanks and still carry it on your frame.

Well sir the best material for a bullet prove vest is spider web. Not only is it light but web is powerful enough to hold a helicopter.
Anyway the Trojan armor uses metal for got the name of it. The one where NASA use for there space program that can stand versus heat. And it uses Spider Web silk. That is just crazy man!

In the Discovery channel they did said about they tried to make the armor out of diamond. Found it to difficult and very expansive to do. They discovered that Spider web or call it Spider silk works more effective as a armor than diamond. One weakness diamond have is water slamming to it with enough force. They actually split it in half, so armor out of diamond was out of the question. I could imagine a counter attack of a diamond type of armor with some type of very powerful water gun. Anyway they showed a big ass spider web it look like it was just a giant paper connected on two a wall. They fired a missile luncher to hit. The missile got tag in the web it wasn't coming out. A big ass sound of explosion happen but the missile was style in the web!
So the scientist say they want to use more tech with Spider silk.

Anyway when they showed the armor nothing was getting through it. And when they said nothing. I mean there was a dint on the fucking armor.
These guys said the next step with the armor is to have a jet pack with guns around....know there going Iron Man level here. A damn walking tank. Whats next a giant robot? These guys are crazy with there teach man. Russia got a new bomb that is way more powerful than the USA Nukes but with no radiation in it. So your getting it by a explosive force of a giant sonic boom.

Japan made a cloaking type of suit. ( That right there I want to know how the fuck Japan even made that happen)

There are two methods of penetrating armor.

1. inertia.

2 vulcanism. (fire).

Now, trust me, i'm no hater, and i'm a huge fan of spiders and their silk, and while silk does have a 40 times tensile rating of strength to steel, you can't make plate silk.

All conventional modern weapons rely on shaped charges to penetrate armor. a shaped charge means that explosive is formed around a cone of metal in order to produce a directed jet of liquid metal when the explosive detonates... usually copper.

the other method, inertia, is open only to the most modern of military assets.

that relies on a materials hardness to overcome the ballistic resistance of a factions most reliable armor. that is the primary usage of the M1A1 Abrams primary anti armor sabot round, which fires a needle of depleted uranium, as well as the principle Bushmaster round, used in both the 25mm Marine Corp fighting vehicle and 30mm Apache helicopter version.

Now. If a round will penetrate 6 feet of the most modern armor on the front of a main battle tank, nothing will stand up to that round that you can move in.

Case in point.

During the inauguration of my friend, my buddy, my immaculate pal....... Barrack Hussein Obama, they had the man on the mall grounds in front of ballistic glass.

If they could have easily overcome the .50 caliber round with body armor, (an infinitesimally tiny round, compared to the 30mm, like comparing a .22 to a shotgun), why would they have bothered with ballistic glass? it would have served no purpose.

but in fact, it did serve a purpose, which is why they used it.

the purpose was not to defeat the .50 caliber round (12.5 mm), but to deflect it. A shot you cant make is a shot you don't take.

no armor on earth below 3 inches can defeat the .50 caliber round.

as a consequence, no armor on earth can be worn which renders a person immune from its effects.

the only defense against a heavy caliber weapon is self propelled armor.

Thus the name Heavy Caliber.

I have personally viewed too many tanks with the people inside shot full of heavy caliber holes to believe any wives tales of tank proof armor.... Worse, i have viewed too many people sucked out through the holes left in tanks by high velocity rounds to believe any such nonsense as rounds that pass through 6 feet of armor, and out the other side, with enough speed to suck the entrails of the occupants out the far hole with them, to entertain thoughts of military armor that would prevent chain guns from damaging the long since immobile user.

The best photos we have from the most recent war are Soviet T-89's, with the tank still sealed, and their occupants in a pile on the ground, sitting outside of the 2 inch hole in the tank... All 5 of them.

Hell, we even have M1A1 Abrams blown all to hell with 1962 bottle (ahem) i mean RPG rockets, although not a single American troop has ever died as a result of a hit on an Abrams tank, it doesn't mean they cant be destroyed by 30 year old technology, it just means our technology is at the level where the armor supercedes the weapon. Sure the tank is destroyed by 30 year old technology, sure we have to replace it, but now we have an experienced tank crew who knows exactly how they screwed up last time to man the next tank.

now, if that doesn't convince you that theoretical body armor is a myth, i don't know what will.

3rd method of penetrating armor: Your lasers go pew pew.